LadyHallows

Please use this forum to confess whatever personality problems you know you have, and you want to improve.

My problem is that I can be the following:
- Very rude.
- Judgmental.
- Insensitive.
- Condescending.

The above traits are gross... yet I know I sometimes show them.

I aim to improve this.

What about you? What are you trying to improve?

The circumstance I provided you was clear:

1. Today, if you tried to the deliver the baby, it would die.
2. Tomorrow if you tried to deliver the baby, it would not die.
3. The mother wants the baby out NOW, it's "MY BODY, MY RIGHTS! I WANT IT OUT NOW!"
4. Are you, gasp the hero in this story, going to take away that mother's rights, and refuse to let her decide what to do with her own body for a FULL 24 HOURS!?



"You are not true pro choice at all! You hate women!!!!"

(I'm not being serious about any of this - just pointing out that you probably might not want to say something so extreme as "no matter the circumstances" because that is --- detached from reality --- even if you do not agree with this specific example - there are many others in which your extreme view of --- no matter what --- is inappropriate.)
If you truly do not want to digest the "day" analogy - then push it to a week, two weeks etc - where do you draw the line in your black and while view of a world of color?
white*

You’re calling it a straw man, but the core tension you’re avoiding is the same one the analogy exposes. If a pregnancy is past the point where delivery would kill the ***** today but not tomorrow, the decisive factor isn’t “medical management” at all. It’s time. And when time is the determining variable, claiming that no matter the circumstances the mother’s immediate demand always overrides every other consideration becomes impossible to defend.
Hospitals deny patient requests constantly when the request conflicts with medical judgment. You already acknowledged this. Yet in the same breath you leaned on “her body, her choice,” which only works as an absolute principle if you’re also willing to accept its consequences in every scenario, even the ones you don’t like. That’s the contradiction you haven’t addressed.
If the rule is “viability determines the standard,” then anything that would intentionally end a viable fetus’s life is an elective abortion, regardless of whether the physician labels the intervention as something else to make it more palatable. You can call the scenario unrealistic, but hospitals routinely make time-based decisions about fetal risk, maternal stability, and when delivery becomes safer than continuation. The fact pattern isn’t science fiction.
Your reply also avoids the key question. If the only difference between death and survival is the mother’s insistence on immediacy, is she entitled to force a procedure that directly causes the death of a viable fetus? If your position is no, then your earlier “no matter the circumstances” claim collapses. If your position is yes, then you are endorsing elective termination of a viable fetus on demand. There isn’t a third option.
You can disagree with the framing, but the logic doesn’t disappear because you find the example inconvenient. If you want your position to hold up under scrutiny, you have to state clearly which principle you’re defending: absolute bodily autonomy even when the outcome is a preventable death, or a viability-based limit that constrains maternal choice. Right now you’re trying to stand on both, and that’s why the argument isn’t landing.

I feel like you messed up, then tried to cover for you messing up with a bunch of compensating nonsense. Just say you got the wrong idea from my post and assumed the actual meaning of the word "darkness" was applicable as it's weird to use words for things that aren't their meaning - and move on.

Easy.

It's like this:

Me: We finish each other's...
You: SANDWHICHES
Me: No... sentences.
You: Oh, yeah, well, that's what the word sandwiches means. Words can mean more than one thing blah blah blah blah BS blah blah.
Me: cringe
What I'm saying likely comes off as condescending, rude, etc - I am human, I have emotions, and I get irritated.

Like... irritated when people waste my time with illogical disingenuous explanations as an alternative to simply saying "my bad".
Now everyone has to read a long, annoying "but but but" backpedaling series of posts rather than being able to just be like "oh, you messed up, you're human, it's cool!" response we'd all prefer to give once you're willing to just be direct and confess the actual cause of your misinterpretation of what I originally said.

lol...

No point in arguing with someone who thinks they've been polite after saying all that.

I don't watch a lot of TV anymore, but I am currently rewatching old episodes of Buffy The Vampire Slayer. I used to love that show (I still do), and I'm very excited to have heard they are bringing it back, after many years, for a reboot. There has not been a date set for a debut yet, but they are in the process of character selection, so hopefully it won't be too long. I very much hope it doesn't suck.

My cat never uses his scratching post, but he’ll sharpen his claws on the couch. It’s an old couch though that I don’t want anymore so it’s whatever, but I’m like really? You have a perfectly good scratching post right there lol

If someone doesn't want to have their baby, they may go to whatever lengths to not have it. Why would you want to live somewhere where it's not your choice to safely terminate a pregnancy, and you could face prosecution for doing so?
I know it's not that easy, but yeah. I feel very grateful to live in a country where abortion is legal.
I also don't think it is a decision that should be taken lightly. While I'm pro-choice, I don't agree with people who use abortion as a contraception method.

It's an irritating feeling... not knowing what society considers still valid as "right" --- when we have a leader who has broken so many laws, and no one holds him accountable, we're all sitting here going "then what is society?"

...he, as I understand, destroyed a part of it to replace it with another thing.

There are about a thousand things to be mad at POTUS for, but this destroy/renovate thing isn't even the top 100 for me.

If you look into treason, incitement of riots, assault etc - those are very important issues, and should not be ignored.

People who explore caves and try to fit through the smallest spaces. Especially when they go alone.

Heath Ledger

David Bowie

Alan Hickman, Chester Bennington, Chris Cornell

Robin Williams


Whitney Houston

Kobe Bryan - his death was so untimely and unfair.

Also Chester Bennington.

A serial killer would definitely agree with you.
Y'all had a wonderful opportunity to create world peace but you chose random stuff instead... did not expect that.

Correct
Correct.

Someone in my life said "Apathy" as well, which is great.
Wouldn't want anyone to feel accountable for the horrible things they do... wait what???
You had hatred, anger, pride, greed... and you chose... embarrassment.
What happened to you that made you choose that?
I'd say "Pride" might be the worst, many people who have pride, also think they are so superior to others that they have a right to take actions against them. Without pride, not sure if war would exist.

Meet Cody the Sweet Potato.

I have one kitten and his name is Winston

I would love to meet everyone's furry/feathery/scaley friends! Do you have any pets?

I'll start. I have two cats, Aspen and Onyx, and a corn snake, Momo.


I will find some good pictures of the cats and the snake soon, in the meantime please enjoy these shrimps.

Welcome @LadyHallows to the Elites

…someone said “thank you” a lot to me.

It would be interesting to know which is probably more plausibly profitable... I'm guessing bakery.