My thoughts are that it’s not my business. Not my body, not my choice,

What are your thoughts?

No one's business but the person going through it herself . I personally choose adoption,but that's my choice. If someone I know or care about asks advice.. I would tell her, your body, you have got to make that decision.

If someone doesn't want to have their baby, they may go to whatever lengths to not have it. Why would you want to live somewhere where it's not your choice to safely terminate a pregnancy, and you could face prosecution for doing so?

I know it's not that easy, but yeah. I feel very grateful to live in a country where abortion is legal.

I also don't think it is a decision that should be taken lightly. While I'm pro-choice, I don't agree with people who use abortion as a contraception method.

I’m mostly against it unless it absolutely needs to be done.

19 hours ago, ParadiseLost said:

I also don't think it is a decision that should be taken lightly. While I'm pro-choice, I don't agree with people who use abortion as a contraception method.

This is how I feel about it too.

Not sure if there are a lot of people who would want to be born if it was to a person who did not want them.

Imma catholic so I think that kinda says where my position on this is.

19 hours ago, Red Robert said:

Imma catholic so I think that kinda says where my position on this is.

Although I don't like sad abortions (ones that are for no reason)

I think abortion should always be legal because although you could argue that the statistics show that most of abortions are for no reason at all, roe v wade protects *****ren, ******, and r word victims. Laws protect the minority not only the majority. Also I am happy I had the choice to carry my pregnancy.

On 10/20/2025 at 8:08 PM, mary said:

Although I don't like sad abortions (ones that are for no reason)

weirdest sentence.

On 10/20/2025 at 8:08 PM, mary said:

I think abortion should always be legal

.........always?

It should be legal just cause how crazy common rword/******/morbid disabilities are. But it shouldn't be used as birth control, or dumb **** like 'my career', in my opinion,

3 hours ago, Onision said:

weirdest sentence.

.........always?

Also when I wrote that I didn’t understand how that came off lol. All abortion is sad, I think it’s especially sad when it’s for no real reason. But it’s always sad. I think it should always be legal unless after 23 weeks.

I wrote that quickly without thinking how that could be interpreted my bad.

On 10/22/2025 at 6:33 PM, mary said:

I think it should always be legal unless after 23 weeks.

Better statement than last for sure.

9 hours ago, Onision said:

Better statement than last for sure.

yea lol that was an oopsie on my part, I didn’t realize how that could come off

I was raised Catholic, we're taught its wrong... Today I believe a different way

8 hours ago, Sheila89 said:

I was raised Catholic, we're taught its wrong... Today I believe a different way

One of thousands of religions.

9 hours ago, Onision said:

One of thousands of religions.

Yes, and they all claim "The only true religion" title.

17 hours ago, Sheila89 said:

Yes, and they all claim "The only true religion" title.

This is why humans are terrifying, they can all believe a lie, and be willing to die for it - immune to reason.

On 11/11/2025 at 11:32 AM, LadyHallows said:

I’m Pro-Choice. I’m for bodily autonomy no matter the circumstances. 💯

........what if the person carrying the baby is 1 day away from the baby being able to live on their own, separate from the mom, if surgically removed that day. You still going to abort the day before? Because of the "no matter" what the circumstances are? Or are you going to deprive that mother of her option because of that circumstance?

9 minutes ago, LadyHallows said:

When I said ‘no matter the circumstances,’ I was referring to decisions prior to viability. Once a pregnancy is viable, the medical standard is delivery, not elective abortion.

The circumstance I provided you was clear:

1. Today, if you tried to the deliver the baby, it would die.
2. Tomorrow if you tried to deliver the baby, it would not die.
3. The mother wants the baby out NOW, it's "MY BODY, MY RIGHTS! I WANT IT OUT NOW!"
4. Are you, gasp the hero in this story, going to take away that mother's rights, and refuse to let her decide what to do with her own body for a FULL 24 HOURS!?



"You are not true pro choice at all! You hate women!!!!"

(I'm not being serious about any of this - just pointing out that you probably might not want to say something so extreme as "no matter the circumstances" because that is --- detached from reality --- even if you do not agree with this specific example - there are many others in which your extreme view of --- no matter what --- is inappropriate.)

If you truly do not want to digest the "day" analogy - then push it to a week, two weeks etc - where do you draw the line in your black and while view of a world of color?

white*

You’re calling it a straw man, but the core tension you’re avoiding is the same one the analogy exposes. If a pregnancy is past the point where delivery would kill the ***** today but not tomorrow, the decisive factor isn’t “medical management” at all. It’s time. And when time is the determining variable, claiming that no matter the circumstances the mother’s immediate demand always overrides every other consideration becomes impossible to defend.

Hospitals deny patient requests constantly when the request conflicts with medical judgment. You already acknowledged this. Yet in the same breath you leaned on “her body, her choice,” which only works as an absolute principle if you’re also willing to accept its consequences in every scenario, even the ones you don’t like. That’s the contradiction you haven’t addressed.

If the rule is “viability determines the standard,” then anything that would intentionally end a viable fetus’s life is an elective abortion, regardless of whether the physician labels the intervention as something else to make it more palatable. You can call the scenario unrealistic, but hospitals routinely make time-based decisions about fetal risk, maternal stability, and when delivery becomes safer than continuation. The fact pattern isn’t science fiction.

Your reply also avoids the key question. If the only difference between death and survival is the mother’s insistence on immediacy, is she entitled to force a procedure that directly causes the death of a viable fetus? If your position is no, then your earlier “no matter the circumstances” claim collapses. If your position is yes, then you are endorsing elective termination of a viable fetus on demand. There isn’t a third option.

You can disagree with the framing, but the logic doesn’t disappear because you find the example inconvenient. If you want your position to hold up under scrutiny, you have to state clearly which principle you’re defending: absolute bodily autonomy even when the outcome is a preventable death, or a viability-based limit that constrains maternal choice. Right now you’re trying to stand on both, and that’s why the argument isn’t landing.

20 hours ago, LadyHallows said:

I’ve been nothing but polite

lol...

No point in arguing with someone who thinks they've been polite after saying all that.

Not my business

Everyone should do what they need to do without judgement

Ppl are allowed to have an opinion but not everyone wants to hear it.

Edited December 1Dec 1 by Hannah Newera

4 hours ago, Hannah Newera said:

Everyone should do what they need to do without judgement

So... 9th month abortions just because they "aint feeling it"? (not saying that would happen - but I am saying, there's a clear limit)

Obvs waiting till 9 months is a bit much and very bad for the mom themselves

20 hours ago, Hannah Newera said:

Obvs waiting till 9 months is a bit much and very bad for the mom themselves

oMg sO yOuR jUdgiNg hEr?!?

There is a line.

I mean i try not to

But i guess there is a line somewhere

On 12/2/2025 at 9:13 AM, Hannah Newera said:

But i guess there is a line somewhere

That's why the phrase "never say never" exists --- we think we consider all things, but we don't.

Good point 😁